
[Q&A from an interview with Robert Altman, originally written for Barnes & Noble.com]
DG: What was the genesis of the Nashville project?
Robert Altman: Joan Tewkesbury had written the screenplay for Thieves Like Us, and I really wanted to make that film. But I was working with United Artists at the time, and they weren’t really interested in the project. They said they’d produce it if I’d make a country-western movie for them. They already had a script and a deal with the singer Tom Jones. Well, I read that script and didn’t want to do it, but I told them I’d be willing to do something else — a movie that was really about Nashville — and I promised them it would have plenty of music. So I sent Joan to Nashville to just kind of hang out for a few weeks and come up with some kind of idea for a movie. She did, and when we finished the script and gave it to United Artists, they passed on it. So now I had this great piece, but I didn’t have any way to make it. Finally Jerry Weintraub, who was in the record business at the time, came over to my office and said, “I want to get into the film business; how do I do it?” I handed him the script and said “Get this made.” He came back about a week later and said, “Okay, I’ve got Marty Starger who wants to do it at ABC.” And that’s how Nashville got made.
DG: Is the Geraldine Chaplin character Joan Tewkesbury’s joke at her own expense — in the way that she’s always hanging out on the fringes?
RA: Yeah, I’m sure it was. Most of the characters and incidents in the film were in some way inspired by things that Joan experienced while she was doing research in Nashville. In fact, when she got off of the plane and first headed into town, there was a wreck on the freeway, and she was held up there for about two hours; that experience inspired a scene that ended up opening the picture.
DG: The whole idea of the bicentennial celebration and the bigger themes about America — were those things you wanted to emphasize from the start?
RA: It was part of a political conceit that we got into. After the script was finished, I came up with the idea for the assassination of Barbara Jean and added the character of the candidate to it. I asked a friend to write speeches for a fictional political candidate that he’d like to see get elected, because I wanted to weave that into the story as well. In the early stages, Polly Platt (The Last Picture Show) was involved in the picture; she was going to be the production designer. But she didn’t like it at all when I put the assassination into the script. Joan didn’t like it either. But the political theme added some necessary weight to the story. I told them I was sorry, but it was going to stay in the script. So Polly Platt quit the picture, but thankfully Joan stayed on.
DG: How much improvisation went into the film? Was there any rewriting done by Joan during production?
RA: Yeah, Joan was always there, and we would improvise and do rewrites while shooting the scenes. That’s the way I do all my films, so Nashville was no different in that sense. It’s just the way I make movies. I start with a script, cast the film, and then the work really starts.
DG: Was it your idea to cast actors who would write and sing their own songs?
RA: No, that evolved, because we didn’t know how we were going to do it at first. I hired Richard Baskin to supervise the music. We listened to a lot of good songs, and then Ronee Blakely was introduced to us. Richard brought her in just to do some songs. She wasn’t an actress, and initially we didn’t think about her as a possibility for the film. We had already cast Susan Anspach to play Barbara Jean. But then we found out that our budget was so small that we had to pay everyone in the cast less money. Susan wouldn’t take the pay cut, so we had to replace her. When we came to Nashville, we had no Barbara Jean. Ronee was singing backup for Hoyt Axton at the time. She hung out with us and worked on a few songs, and I started to look at her in a different way, trying to figure out if she could do this part for us. Ultimately, we cast her.
DG: The scene where she has a mental breakdown onstage is beautifully done. Was that scripted or improvised?
RA: The screenplay indicated what was supposed to happen in general terms, but Ronee wrote and choreographed everything she did in that scene. She came to me the morning we were supposed to shoot it and told me that she had written some stuff. I didn’t have time to read it. So I told her we’d shoot it her way, and if it didn’t work we’d just edit it out. Of course, she was magnificent.
DG: The soundtrack was just recently released on CD for the first time, and it sounds terrific. How was the music recorded?
RA: All the music was done live. That was very important to us. We didn’t do any playback or that sort of thing. And most of the songs were written by the actors. We weren’t trying to make “hit” songs. When we finished this picture and showed it down in Nashville, all of the country music royalty down there — people like Hank Snow, Minnie Pearl, Roy Acuff — just hated the picture. They protested that it wasn’t Nashville; “Nashville writes good songs, blah blah blah.” I don’t mean any disrespect, but I think the artists down there at the time just took it too personally and felt that they should’ve written the songs, that somehow we’d violated something.
DG: But that’s what’s so poignant about the songs as they’re performed in the movie. You feel that they’re coming from real people
RA: Yeah, that’s the way I feel about it, too. The recording industry only selects a few of the many songs written. I wanted to see bad songs in there too, as well as good ones. I wanted a cross section — like when you cut a tree down and look at the rings.
DG: Critics have referred to the film as a “mosaic of America.” Did you think along big thematic lines like that when you were making it?
RA: Well, I wanted to tell a lot of different stories and show the lives of people we don’t normally see onscreen. And, of course, I was very conscious of the political side of it from the start. I think we ended up saying a lot about America and the intense longing that many people in this country feel. In my opinion, the character of the political candidate predicted Jimmy Carter and, later, Ross Perot. It’s a funny thing though: Later, when John Lennon was killed, the Washington Post called me. They opened the conversation by asking if I felt responsible for this. I said, “Well, how do you hold me responsible?” And they replied, “Oh, you came out with this film a few years ago, and you kind of predicted that assassination would move over from politicians to celebrities.” So I said, “Well, why didn’t you heed my warnings?” [laughs]
DG: One of the recurring themes in your films — and particularly in Nashville — is that winning often turns out to be losing. When your characters get something they’ve dreamt of, it usually ends up empty or wrong somehow.
RA: It’s like the old saying “Be careful what you wish for.” It’s a theme that’s always interested me. I’ve many times been asked by producers “Are you going to have a ‘happy ending?’” Well, I feel that that depends on where you decide to end the picture. You could make a nice love story, where at the end everybody’s kissing, and that’s a happy ending. But if you were to look at the lives of those same characters a year later, they might have broken up, or one of them might have fallen ill or died in a car accident — all kinds of things could happen. Happiness is just a stop along the way. Whether a movie has a happy ending or a sad one depends on where you stop telling the story.
DG: Did you have final-cut approval on the picture?
RA: I always do. I’ve never made a film without final say on the cut. Even if I hadn’t negotiated for that kind of control, I’d take it. I have to make the film the way I see it.
DG: Nashville is a really sprawling and ambitious film. Were you happy with the way Paramount marketed it?
RA: For the most part, yes. Maybe they thought the film was too long, and that probably hurt its chances. Also, you have to remember there were plenty of people who didn’t like it when it was first released. Not everyone knew what to make of it.
DG: Where do you rank Nashville among your own work?
RA: It’s one of my kids. I suppose I should be more modest about it, but I love all my films. They’re a part of my life now. The movies I made over the years may have their flaws, just like people do, but it doesn’t lessen my love and affection for them. Sometimes it seems we had to move heaven and earth to get them made, but they’re all finished, and I wouldn’t change a thing.
August 15, 2000